Club Meeting Minutes 2020
No meeting was held in April or May
Big Sky RC Meeting Minutes March 4, 2020
Vice-President Dave Grosse brought the meeting to order at 6:04 PM at the Paris Gibson cafeteria with 11 members in attendance.
Secretary Don Gilles read February’s meeting minutes and they were accepted as read.
Treasurer Darrel Anderson read the Treasurer’s report and it was accepted as read.
Old business: John Sandy had new dates for the Paradise Valley Fly-in, it’s 19-21 June. The Fort Benton float-fly will probably only be scheduled for Saturday, 27 June - TBD. Dan Woods asked if the club can be sustained with 25 members and what we could do to increase club revenue. Possibilities discussed were 5 year memberships, raise the open house lunch fee, have a landing fee during club fly-in’s and having a gate entry fee. Darrell Anderson asked if members had sent in their NPRM - Remote ID comments. Dan Woods proposed that we table discussion & acceptance of our new club rules to the April meeting - all agreed. Dave Grosse agreed to send the new rules out to all club members for review. Dan Woods reviewed the club's state land lease to determine if we could use a portion of the property for a rock-crawler track. The lease in its current wording doesn't seem to give us the leeway we need to build a track.
Big Sky RC Meeting Minutes February 5, 2020Vice-President Dave Grosse brought the meeting to order at 7:00 PM at the 10th Street Hardees, with 11 members and 1 guest in attendance. Don Gilles read the minutes from January’s meeting and they were accepted as read. Treasurer Darrel Anderson read the Treasurer’s report and it was also accepted as read. Old business: Dave Grosse stated there’s no new information on the car track, Bud Lee’s planes or the sign relocation. Dave read the tentative 2020 events. The events so far are: Fort Benton field on the month - March 21, Quad Race - June 6, Paradise Valley Fly in - June 12-14, Fort Benton Float Fly - June 26-28, Great Falls Open House - July 10-12, Great Falls Float Fly -July 25, Scale Fly In - August 22, Quad Race - September 26 and Leo's Memorial Fly-In - Oct 3. All dates are subject to change. Dave Grosse stated we were thinking of naming our events after former members and that we might need to discuss this further – nobody volunteered to head this up. John Sandy stated that Missoula’s club has scheduled a Fly-In for 8-9 Aug in Victor, MT. Tom Penn talked about the car track. A go-fast track is probably not going to happen and there is little interest in starting a new club. Tom stated there is a lot of interest in rock crawler clubs and rock crawler courses. Bruce Hadella said maybe we could offer the rock crawlers a reduced rate of $40 to $45 a year as these members won’t be using our field but just a small corner, yet TBD, to make a rock crawler track. Dave Grosse stated that Dan Woods is still reviewing the lease requirements to ensure the club is ok to do this. John Sandy brought some old AMA magazines down to Hobby Time R/C. Tom Penn stated that there hasn’t been much interest in airplanes outside of our own members. New business: Dave Grosse opened new business with a discussion on the club’s Bylaws and Rules. Dave stated he hadn’t gotten a lot of feedback since he sent out his suggested revisions. Darrell Anderson suggested we update the name of our Safety Officer to Safety Coordinator. Darrell also cautioned us on attempting to regulate courtesy while making changes to our rules. Bruce Hadella requested the club update the rules for driving / unloading in the pit area vs parking in the pit area. A vigorous discussion about vehicles in the pit area ensued. Dave Grosse stated he’ll add a tentative rule clarifying when vehicles can be in the pit area and that members are liable for damage to their own vehicle if it’s damaged in the pit area. Dave Grossed continued with suggested updates to the 72Mhz rules. Many members suggested to leave them as is as some still fly with 72Mhz. John Ropp suggested we might need to add some type of frequency board for FPV flying. A lengthy discussion on FPV frequencies ensued. Nothing final was agreed upon concerning changes on either of these matters. Dave Grosse stated he has updated the rule concerning spectators in the pit area. It was again cautioned to not over regulate this, the spectator might be our next new member. Bruce Hadella asked about members flying 3d while other members are flying. Dave clarified that we do have a rule concerning hovering aircraft. John Sandy stated that the rule concerning handicapped member’s vehicles should be updated to state that after their aircraft are unloaded the member’s vehicle should be moved to regular parking. It was decided to remove the handicap rule as it wasn’t needed. Don Hungerford stated that we need to ensure vehicles are not too close to the FPV flying area and maybe modifying the parking area as needed. Dave Grosse drafted a new rule specifying when helicopters and drones must stay out of the aircraft flying area unless permission is given by members flying aircraft at that time. Dave also added a rule concerning end of day lockup. Dave Grosse stated we should table the Bylaws discussion for another meeting, TBD.
John Sandy asked about the “Full Scale” aviation conference. Darrell Anderson gave a brief rundown. John Sandy and Doug McCombs discussed setting up an area for control line flying over by the helicopter pad. Doug has marked out an area and placed stakes in the ground – please be observant. John plans on mowing the area later this spring. Darrell Anderson gave an update on RemoteID and reminded everyone to make comments on the FAA website for RemoteID. Tom Penn brought a guest, Aaron. Thanks Tom. Thanks to all attendees, the meeting was adjourned at 8:28pm.
Big Sky RC Meeting Minutes January 8, 2020
President Dan Woods brought the meeting to order at 6:07 PM at the Paris Education Center cafeteria, with 11 members in attendance. Before reading last month’s minutes President Dan Woods presented the “Most Improved Flyer” award for 2019 to Don Gilles. Don Gilles read the minutes from December’s meeting, and they were accepted as read. Treasurer Darrel Anderson read the Treasurer’s report, it was also accepted as read. Old business: Doug McCombs asked if there was an update on reviewing our lease to allow building a RC car track at our facility. Tom Penn stated he knows the local car modelers are looking for a new track and the car modelers might be forming their own club. Dan Woods stated it might bring a boost to our membership if we were to build a track. Tom Penn stated the nitro cars bring a lot of noise and this might be an issue of concern. Dan Woods stated all of this is on his to-do list and he hopes to review it soon and get back to the club with his findings. Dan Woods discussed the banquet results and it seemed people were pleased with the MT Club. Dan Woods proposed we plan for using the MT Club again next year and he’ll contact them to see if he can schedule the 2020 banquet for either December 6th or 13th, 11pm to 4pm, moving to a Sunday event instead of Saturday. Dan Woods asked about what the club should do with the remaining planes from Bud Lee, either to auction or give them away. John Sandy said a raffle might be an option. Two of Bud’s planes were given away at the 2019 Christmas banquet. Dan Woods stated he could build a list of all the planes with pictures and John Sandy said he’d send it out to his list of contacts. John Sandy thought we might raffle them off at our fly-in. Dan Woods said another option is for the club to meet up and go through all the items Bud Lee gave the club. New business: Dan Woods discussed the requirement to move our club sign that is located on highway 87 due to scheduled road construction. The sign must be taken down by August 1st. Dan Woods asked if we should reuse the old sign or make a new one. John Ropp thought we should make a new sign, it was discussed, but nobody volunteered to make a new sign. Darrell Anderson read the legal requirements of the MT Outdoor Advertising Act, MT Code Annotated, 75-15-101. John Sandy asked for clarification on where we could relocate the sign and Dave Grosse explained the sign must be located outside of the right of way, on private property. Dan Woods brought up our events for 2020 and a tentative get-together with Helena. Dan Woods stated we would keep our normal events but maybe move the quad event to a new date and he would send out the proposed event dates to club members. Dan Woods stated our open house weekend will probably be 10-12 July but not advertise Sunday as part of the open house. It was also discussed if night flying was allowed. The AMA was denied permission to hold their annual night flying event at the AMA Expo West this year but the FAA denied the AMA’s request to have the night flying event and offered no reason for the denial. Currently AMA’s safety code allows night flying. More to come on this. Dan Woods also discussed the July 4th parade and that he won’t be building a float this year and asked the members if anyone was interested in heading up as float master – there were no takers. Dan Woods asked if we should pay for an advertisement or just use the free notices such as the Tribune’s Hot Ticket. Don Woods stated the local TV Community Calendar is a possible option. Darrell Anderson reminded members our off-site FAA agreements are valid through this year Dave Grosse asked about scheduling a build night. John Sandy volunteered his garage and Steve Woodhouse said his new runway is ready and he’s open to having a field of the month / build event. A date for either of these was not set. Darrell Anderson read the FAA notice that FAA registrations were extended through 2020 at no cost and also informed everyone about bogus registration sites. Darrell Anderson then brought up and read the AMA Leader Minute brief about the FAA’s new Remote ID and gave a brief rundown on its requirements and implications for our club. Don Gilles stated that the FAA has already posted a revision to Remote ID and to wait a bit before submitting any comment to ensure you comment on the most current revision. John Sandy brought two new models to the meeting – they looked great. Thanks John.
Thanks to all attendees and the meeting was adjourned at 7:07pm.
Big Sky RC Meeting Minutes
Jun 3, 2020
President Dan Woods brought the meeting to order at 7:04 PM at the Big Sky RC Field with 9 members in attendance.
There were no meetings / minutes for Apr or May due to Covid-19.
Treasurer Darrel Anderson read the Treasurer’s report and it was accepted as read.
Bruce Hadella started old business with a motion to accept the updated field safety rules that vice-president Dave Grosse worked on. The motion was passed. Darrell Anderson spoke of our declining club funds and how the payment from the state to remove our highway sign bolstered our bottom line. This brought up several comments on removing the sign and it was again decided to leave the sign until the end of July.
Dan Woods began a discussion about this summer's events and that most of them will probably be canceled or not advertised to the public due to Covid-19. The Fort Benton Days Float Fly, June 26-28, is canceled. Our July 10-12 open house is still scheduled for club members but may not be advertised to the public due to Covid-19, same with our July 25 Riverside Park Float Fly.
Members are reminded that Tuesday night is a club get together each week if you can make it.
Dan Woods asked about scheduling a work party but interest quickly diminished.
Thanks to all attendees, the meeting was adjourned at 7:39pm.