Club Meeting Minutes 2020
Big Sky RC Meeting Minutes Oct 7, 2020
Vice-President Dave Grosse brought the meeting to order at 6:06 PM at Lions Park with 6 members in attendance.
Treasurer Darrell Anderson read the Treasurer’s report and it was accepted as read.
Secretary Don Gilles read September’s meeting minutes and they were accepted as read.
Old business:
-- Car track update. Dan posted a notice to the Big Sky RC Modelers Facebook page and received several comments encouraging this to move forward. Dan stated in his email that we will need to discuss what a none flying club membership might look like - that was tabled for now. Darrell also stated we'll definitely need the car folks to get with us on designing and ultimately building the field.
-- Indoor flying is on hold for now.
-- Dan stated he's working on ordering the 21 plates for the Jack Feddes Memorial at the field.
-- The Christmas banquet is on hold for now.
New business:
John Sandy had information on duplicating your airplane kit prints. Builders Exchange on machinery row can do this for you.
John Sandy is heading to Central Hobbies Billings to pick up some fuel. He stated 10% is going for $26 a gallon and 15% is $29 a gallon.
John Sandy said that Steve Woodhouse expressed he'd like to host a camp-over/fly-in next year at his farm. All members agreed this sounded like a great idea - hope to hear more on this from Steve.
John Sandy said if you need balsa wood to contact National Balsa.
Dave Grosse brought up the issue of where November's meeting will be held as we can't use the school or Hardee's. John Sandy volunteered his garage and all members agreed. Don Wood's volunteered to host December's meeting. Directions to these will be sent out in an email prior to the meetings.
Thanks to all attendees, the meeting was adjourned at 6:31 pm. Submitted by Secretary Don Gilles

Big Sky RC Meeting Minutes Sep 2, 2020
President Dan Woods brought the meeting to order at 7:05 PM at the Big Sky RC Field with 9 members in attendance.
Secretary Don Gilles read August’s meeting minutes and they were accepted as read.
Treasurer Darrell Anderson read the Treasurer’s report and it was accepted as read.
We started the meeting on a sad note that club member Garry Denning has passed away. He was a common site watching us from his pickup and will be missed by all.
Old business:
Dan Woods started with a briefing about our updated first aid kit and its contents.
Dan Woods brought up the Sep 26 quad race and that weather dependent - it's still a go and encouraged all to attend.
Dave Grosse briefed that he and Don Gilles removed the club sign on the Havre Highway. The sign is stored between the two sheds by the outhouse.
New business:
John Sandy briefed that the upcoming Helena Float Fly is still a go for Sunday, September 27 at the Clarks Bay campground on Hauser Lake. John is also checking on whether or not we'll be having the Leo Somerfield memorial fly-in - status is TBD.
Don Hungerford updated us on the status of the 3 west end field tables. One is disassembled and the other two are in poor condition. It was decided to finish repairing the tables after winter has passed.
Don Gilles asked about buying a new set of blades for the mower. The cost would be around $25. Status is TBD.

Dan Woods briefed that he was down at Hobby Time RC and spoke with some RC car guys and that they still seem very interested in a dirt car racing track. Dan Woods spoke to the members that this seems like a good opportunity to get more interest and support for our club - all agreed. There'll be more to come on this issue.
Don Hungerford asked if we should take down the drone racing course this winter - it was decided to leave it.
John Ropp briefed there is a "76 lawn tractor for sale and he thinks it'll sell for about $100. No decision was made on this.
Thanks to all attendees, the meeting was adjourned at 7:44 pm.

Big Sky RC Meeting Minutes Aug 5, 2020
Vice-President Dave Grosse brought the meeting to order at 7:00 PM at the Big Sky RC Field with 7 members in attendance.
Treasurer Darrell Anderson read the Treasurer’s report and it was accepted as read. Secretary Don Gilles read July’s meeting minutes and they were accepted as read. Old business: Dave Grosse started old business with a follow-up to the highway project. The start of road construction has been moved out to 18 Sep so we have some extra time before our club's sign needs to be removed. Dave suggested we do set a time and date for the removal to coincide with Tuesday night flights but no firm date was set. Don Hungerford resurfaced one of the field tables - thanks Don! Dave Grosse asked if we were going to set up a work party for the upcoming scale / fun fly scheduled for 22 Aug. The only thing needing attention is eliminating the parking lot weeds. Don Hungerford volunteered to take care of the weeds. Thanks again Don! Dave Grosse stated the club open house and our river float fly turned out well. We had great weather and lots of club members showed up to fly. Tom Penn is still working on getting with the drag racing folks to discuss scheduling a race for mid to late summer 2021. New business: Dave Grosse began a discussion about the scheduled 26 Sep quad race and that it's still a go. Dave also said Tuesday night flights has had slim turn-out but he's still encouraging all to come on out and fly. Thanks to all attendees, the meeting was adjourned at 7:51 pm.

Big Sky RC Meeting Minutes Jul 1, 2020 Vice President Dave Grosse brought the meeting to order at 7:06 PM at the Big Sky RC Field with 7 members in attendance. Secretary Don Gilles read June’s meeting minutes and they were accepted as read.
Treasurer Darrel Anderson read the Treasurer’s report and it was accepted as read.
Old business: Dave Grosse started old business with a follow-up to the new rules discussion and informed the members that the new rules are posted to the club's website. Bruce Hadella thanked John Sandy for spraying weeds and also thanked all the members that have kept up with mowing. All members discussed the upcoming summer events and that our agreement with the airport for flying off the river and Wadsworth Park is expiring and we'll need a new one for next year. Don Hungerford stated he'll probably be repairing some more of the field tables.
New business: Dave Grosse began a discussion about this summer's events and that our July 10-12 open house is still scheduled for club members. Bruce Hadella recommended we do cold lunches as the turn-out may be lower than usual. John Sandy stated he'll be camping and invited others to do so. Darrell Anderson stated he has the field stop sign and is resurfacing it.
John Sandy reminded everyone the Paradise Valley Fly-In and the Victor Fly-In are still scheduled for 08-09 Aug. John said both clubs have grass runways. Tom Penn said that RC drag racing is becoming popular and was wondering what the members thought of letting them borrow our runway for a scheduled event in 2021. The general consensus was positive although no motion was taken. Tom said they are small electric cars about 12" by 18". It was suggested that a $10.00 fee per person would good. The car folks would be providing all their own equipment to stage the event - the club would only provide the runway. More discussion to come on this. Thanks to all attendees, the meeting was adjourned at 7:45pm.

Big Sky RC Meeting Minutes Jun 3, 2020
President Dan Woods brought the meeting to order at 7:04 PM at the Big Sky RC Field with 9 members in attendance.
There were no meetings / minutes for Apr or May due to Covid-19. Treasurer Darrel Anderson read the Treasurer’s report and it was accepted as read. Old business: Bruce Hadella started old business with a motion to accept the updated field safety rules that vice-president Dave Grosse worked on. The motion was passed. Darrell Anderson spoke of our declining club funds and how the payment from the state to remove our highway sign bolstered our bottom line. This brought up several comments on removing the sign and it was again decided to leave the sign until the end of July. new business: Dan Woods began a discussion about this summer's events and that most of them will probably be canceled or not advertised to the public due to Covid-19. The Fort Benton Days Float Fly, June 26-28, is canceled. Our July 10-12 open house is still scheduled for club members but may not be advertised to the public due to Covid-19, same with our July 25 Riverside Park Float Fly. Members are reminded that Tuesday night is a club get together each week if you can make it. Dan Woods asked about scheduling a work party but interest quickly diminished.
Thanks to all attendees, the meeting was adjourned at 7:39pm.

No meeting was held in April or May
Big Sky RC Meeting Minutes March 4, 2020
Vice-President Dave Grosse brought the meeting to order at 6:04 PM at the Paris Gibson cafeteria with 11 members in attendance.
Secretary Don Gilles read February’s meeting minutes and they were accepted as read.
Treasurer Darrel Anderson read the Treasurer’s report and it was accepted as read.
Old business: John Sandy had new dates for the Paradise Valley Fly-in, it’s 19-21 June. The Fort Benton float-fly will probably only be scheduled for Saturday, 27 June - TBD. Dan Woods asked if the club can be sustained with 25 members and what we could do to increase club revenue. Possibilities discussed were 5 year memberships, raise the open house lunch fee, have a landing fee during club fly-in’s and having a gate entry fee. Darrell Anderson asked if members had sent in their NPRM - Remote ID comments. Dan Woods proposed that we table discussion & acceptance of our new club rules to the April meeting - all agreed. Dave Grosse agreed to send the new rules out to all club members for review. Dan Woods reviewed the club's state land lease to determine if we could use a portion of the property for a rock-crawler track. The lease in its current wording doesn't seem to give us the leeway we need to build a track.

Big Sky RC Meeting Minutes February 5, 2020Vice-President Dave Grosse brought the meeting to order at 7:00 PM at the 10th Street Hardees, with 11 members and 1 guest in attendance. Don Gilles read the minutes from January’s meeting and they were accepted as read. Treasurer Darrel Anderson read the Treasurer’s report and it was also accepted as read. Old business: Dave Grosse stated there’s no new information on the car track, Bud Lee’s planes or the sign relocation. Dave read the tentative 2020 events. The events so far are: Fort Benton field on the month - March 21, Quad Race - June 6, Paradise Valley Fly in - June 12-14, Fort Benton Float Fly - June 26-28, Great Falls Open House - July 10-12, Great Falls Float Fly -July 25, Scale Fly In - August 22, Quad Race - September 26 and Leo's Memorial Fly-In - Oct 3. All dates are subject to change. Dave Grosse stated we were thinking of naming our events after former members and that we might need to discuss this further – nobody volunteered to head this up. John Sandy stated that Missoula’s club has scheduled a Fly-In for 8-9 Aug in Victor, MT. Tom Penn talked about the car track. A go-fast track is probably not going to happen and there is little interest in starting a new club. Tom stated there is a lot of interest in rock crawler clubs and rock crawler courses. Bruce Hadella said maybe we could offer the rock crawlers a reduced rate of $40 to $45 a year as these members won’t be using our field but just a small corner, yet TBD, to make a rock crawler track. Dave Grosse stated that Dan Woods is still reviewing the lease requirements to ensure the club is ok to do this. John Sandy brought some old AMA magazines down to Hobby Time R/C. Tom Penn stated that there hasn’t been much interest in airplanes outside of our own members. New business: Dave Grosse opened new business with a discussion on the club’s Bylaws and Rules. Dave stated he hadn’t gotten a lot of feedback since he sent out his suggested revisions. Darrell Anderson suggested we update the name of our Safety Officer to Safety Coordinator. Darrell also cautioned us on attempting to regulate courtesy while making changes to our rules. Bruce Hadella requested the club update the rules for driving / unloading in the pit area vs parking in the pit area. A vigorous discussion about vehicles in the pit area ensued. Dave Grosse stated he’ll add a tentative rule clarifying when vehicles can be in the pit area and that members are liable for damage to their own vehicle if it’s damaged in the pit area. Dave Grossed continued with suggested updates to the 72Mhz rules. Many members suggested to leave them as is as some still fly with 72Mhz. John Ropp suggested we might need to add some type of frequency board for FPV flying. A lengthy discussion on FPV frequencies ensued. Nothing final was agreed upon concerning changes on either of these matters. Dave Grosse stated he has updated the rule concerning spectators in the pit area. It was again cautioned to not over regulate this, the spectator might be our next new member. Bruce Hadella asked about members flying 3d while other members are flying. Dave clarified that we do have a rule concerning hovering aircraft. John Sandy stated that the rule concerning handicapped member’s vehicles should be updated to state that after their aircraft are unloaded the member’s vehicle should be moved to regular parking. It was decided to remove the handicap rule as it wasn’t needed. Don Hungerford stated that we need to ensure vehicles are not too close to the FPV flying area and maybe modifying the parking area as needed. Dave Grosse drafted a new rule specifying when helicopters and drones must stay out of the aircraft flying area unless permission is given by members flying aircraft at that time. Dave also added a rule concerning end of day lockup. Dave Grosse stated we should table the Bylaws discussion for another meeting, TBD.
John Sandy asked about the “Full Scale” aviation conference. Darrell Anderson gave a brief rundown. John Sandy and Doug McCombs discussed setting up an area for control line flying over by the helicopter pad. Doug has marked out an area and placed stakes in the ground – please be observant. John plans on mowing the area later this spring. Darrell Anderson gave an update on RemoteID and reminded everyone to make comments on the FAA website for RemoteID. Tom Penn brought a guest, Aaron. Thanks Tom. Thanks to all attendees, the meeting was adjourned at 8:28pm.

Big Sky RC Meeting Minutes January 8, 2020
President Dan Woods brought the meeting to order at 6:07 PM at the Paris Education Center cafeteria, with 11 members in attendance. Before reading last month’s minutes President Dan Woods presented the “Most Improved Flyer” award for 2019 to Don Gilles. Don Gilles read the minutes from December’s meeting, and they were accepted as read. Treasurer Darrel Anderson read the Treasurer’s report, it was also accepted as read. Old business: Doug McCombs asked if there was an update on reviewing our lease to allow building a RC car track at our facility. Tom Penn stated he knows the local car modelers are looking for a new track and the car modelers might be forming their own club. Dan Woods stated it might bring a boost to our membership if we were to build a track. Tom Penn stated the nitro cars bring a lot of noise and this might be an issue of concern. Dan Woods stated all of this is on his to-do list and he hopes to review it soon and get back to the club with his findings. Dan Woods discussed the banquet results and it seemed people were pleased with the MT Club. Dan Woods proposed we plan for using the MT Club again next year and he’ll contact them to see if he can schedule the 2020 banquet for either December 6th or 13th, 11pm to 4pm, moving to a Sunday event instead of Saturday. Dan Woods asked about what the club should do with the remaining planes from Bud Lee, either to auction or give them away. John Sandy said a raffle might be an option. Two of Bud’s planes were given away at the 2019 Christmas banquet. Dan Woods stated he could build a list of all the planes with pictures and John Sandy said he’d send it out to his list of contacts. John Sandy thought we might raffle them off at our fly-in. Dan Woods said another option is for the club to meet up and go through all the items Bud Lee gave the club. New business: Dan Woods discussed the requirement to move our club sign that is located on highway 87 due to scheduled road construction. The sign must be taken down by August 1st. Dan Woods asked if we should reuse the old sign or make a new one. John Ropp thought we should make a new sign, it was discussed, but nobody volunteered to make a new sign. Darrell Anderson read the legal requirements of the MT Outdoor Advertising Act, MT Code Annotated, 75-15-101. John Sandy asked for clarification on where we could relocate the sign and Dave Grosse explained the sign must be located outside of the right of way, on private property. Dan Woods brought up our events for 2020 and a tentative get-together with Helena. Dan Woods stated we would keep our normal events but maybe move the quad event to a new date and he would send out the proposed event dates to club members. Dan Woods stated our open house weekend will probably be 10-12 July but not advertise Sunday as part of the open house. It was also discussed if night flying was allowed. The AMA was denied permission to hold their annual night flying event at the AMA Expo West this year but the FAA denied the AMA’s request to have the night flying event and offered no reason for the denial. Currently AMA’s safety code allows night flying. More to come on this. Dan Woods also discussed the July 4th parade and that he won’t be building a float this year and asked the members if anyone was interested in heading up as float master – there were no takers. Dan Woods asked if we should pay for an advertisement or just use the free notices such as the Tribune’s Hot Ticket. Don Woods stated the local TV Community Calendar is a possible option. Darrell Anderson reminded members our off-site FAA agreements are valid through this year Dave Grosse asked about scheduling a build night. John Sandy volunteered his garage and Steve Woodhouse said his new runway is ready and he’s open to having a field of the month / build event. A date for either of these was not set. Darrell Anderson read the FAA notice that FAA registrations were extended through 2020 at no cost and also informed everyone about bogus registration sites. Darrell Anderson then brought up and read the AMA Leader Minute brief about the FAA’s new Remote ID and gave a brief rundown on its requirements and implications for our club. Don Gilles stated that the FAA has already posted a revision to Remote ID and to wait a bit before submitting any comment to ensure you comment on the most current revision. John Sandy brought two new models to the meeting – they looked great. Thanks John.
Thanks to all attendees and the meeting was adjourned at 7:07pm.

Big Sky RC Meeting Minutes Nov 4, 2020

President Dan Woods brought the meeting to order at 7:04 PM at John Sandy's garage with 7 members in attendance. Secretary Don Gilles read October’s meeting minutes and they were accepted as read.
Treasurer Darrell Anderson read the Treasurer’s report and it was accepted as read.

Old business:
Dan Woods started with a reminder that the Christmas party is still on hold. Then Dan brought up the car track issues for discussion. Several issues need to be addressed:







New business:

Dan Woods reminded us that club officer nomination needs to proceed soon and for members to start thinking about that.

Darrell Anderson briefed us on the benefits of our club re-chartering to a 501(c)(3) organization. The biggest benefit would be obtaining a tax exemption status. There are numerous others and Darrell agreed to look into the process of doing this and will provide an update when he finds more information.


December's meeting location is currently TBD and we'll wait for the weather and covid to make a decision.

Thanks to John Sandy for hosting the meeting and providing us with donuts, coffee and shelter from the wind. Social distancing was observed.

Thanks to all attendees, the meeting was adjourned at 8:03 pm.